Misandry: Distinguishing Lied To Men From “White Knights”/”Manginas”/”Pussy Beggars”

I still watch videos on misandry and the Men’s Rights Movement from time to time on YouTube, because I’m always learning something new. (A huge shout out to manwomanmyth, whose videos are incredibly informative and down-to-earth.)

One thing I’ve noticed with watching these videos, is that the most widely known video producers fall into two categories:

  • those who see feminism as the main problem, and primarily criticise women;
  • those who see male “enablers” as the main problem, and criticise these men.

Today’s post on DREWspective is about the latter: men who – willingly or unwittingly – allow feminism to continue.

Before I air my thoughts, I want to make sure I have my terminologies correct. MRAs use the following terms to describe male feminists, or men who cater to women’s whims at the drop of a hat; if I have any of these definitions wrong, please correct me.

  • A white knight – also known as “Captain Save-A-Ho” – is a man who steps in to resolve a woman’s problems of her own making. These problems include paying off the woman’s debt, fixing her car, or protecting the woman from an angry ex. White knights do these things for free, thinking it’s the “manly” thing to do, with the hope or expectation of reciprocation.
  • A mangina is a man who argues in favour of equal rights and responsibilities for women, but bends over backwards to support women if those responsibilities prove to be inconvenient for them. This includes verbally attacking other men if they happen to hold a viewpoint that isn’t favourable to women (I get this a lot).
  • A pussy beggar is a derogatory term, often used synonymously with “nice guy” (another derogatory term), for a man who adopts manipulative behaviours to gain a woman’s favour. The difference between these and “nice guys” is that “nice guys” aren’t putting on an act.

(By the way: feminism is not about equal rights between men and women; it’s about the ideology of female supremacy. Just as racism is the ideology of racial supremacy, and nazism is the ideology of a suprerior “breed” of people.)

As someone who often got called a “nice guy” (which basically means I’m a reject), I wanted to address the lumping of “nice guys” and “pussy beggars” (as well as the other groups) together, which many an MRA is guilty of. I don’t believe “nice guys” fall into these categories at all, and it’s something that’s hurting the Men’s Rights Movement.

Back when the Double Your Dating e-book took off and became popular, David DeAngelo triggered what I call the war on “nice guys”*: the idea that “beta males”, or men who women call “nice guys”, are manipulative and dishonest, and deserve to be ostracised and ridiculed; far more so than the “assholes” and “jerks” women choose to get involved with, as well as the new generation of PUAs looking to get laid (who, ironically, are “pussy beggars”). Ever since the war started, material on how to become an “alpha male” has flooded the Internet, with examples of “alpha males” being heavily touted.

My issue is that not all “nice guys” (including myself, but don’t ever call me that) are “pussy beggars”, neither are they manipulative or dishonest. They were lied to about how to treat women, more often than not by women themselves. That’s why I wrote a post – and made a YouTube video – suggesting that us men should lay off “nice guys”. We really don’t need another article or video saying they finish last.

These “nice guys” were raised (by women – no man would ever pass on such bullshit to his son) to believe that doing certain things for women, such as holding open doors, buying them dinner, and always paying compliments, was the key to winning their affection. They also had the concept of “the right girl”, which is another fallacy, drummed into their heads while growing up. They got to the age where they started noticing women, and sure enough they did all the things they were taught to do. But these things didn’t work, and now they’re being abused and made fun of by women and men alike. I would be pissed off too.

What’s hurting the Men’s Rights Movement right is the constant bashing of “nice guys” by other men: usually by those who are already successful with women and really have no idea what rejection feels like. While it was a relief to know that many other men felt the same way I did when I discovered the movement, I can only speak for myself as one of these reformed, so-called “nice guys” that, if I didn’t have so much knowledge, would be afraid to even consider watching a video on men’s rights activism, with all the bashing going on.
This is why I argue that, if certain MRAs want to give themselves airs, the focus should be on educating men rather than bashing them. Women have been so successful in implementing feminism, because they’re easily able to support each other, and often take each others’ sides against men.

Of course, what a man does after receiving sufficient education is his responsibility. Sometimes certain people can’t (or don’t want to be) helped. But the seeds have to be sown for anything to gain traction.

* I’m not directly blaming David DeAngelo – no doubt there were other PUAs involved, as well as some feminists in the background – but this was something he drove home in his newsletters and literature, which were very popular at the time.

One comment in response...

  1. bayz says:

    It is not worthy, you can start debating and if they start making assumptions without data or even presenting said data when asked for sources, than there is no point as the person obviously is not interested of even learn about the subject for fear of losing their preconceived bias.

    Most people are just comfortable with an extremely sexist and self loathing view of society, I used to be a mangina for instance, I fully and whole heatedly supported Feminism in the past, but when confronted with the MRA evidence I decided to instruct myself before start posting in their websites, first to have proof to counter them…surprise surprise I could not at least not using veritable sources.

    And now I am a MGTOW, fun fun fun. I can just talk about myself but I have zero respect with people who has not the intellectual curiosity to dig on the subjects and find out for themselves.

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